tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post4090862771334286066..comments2024-03-28T07:25:19.546-07:00Comments on Dorothy Surrenders: An outie or an innie?Dorothy Snarkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10143059192565751994noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-83363074981158124972011-09-13T02:54:39.816-07:002011-09-13T02:54:39.816-07:00"The stars flirt with us, give an interview (..."The stars flirt with us, give an interview (often with the gay press) where they proclaim some sort of bisexuality and then maybe weeks, maybe months, maybe years later tell another media outlet that they were never were gay in the first place or just misquoted or plain old wrong." -----> that is so what Laurel Holloman did too, ugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-328806159805495612009-07-17T06:29:56.410-07:002009-07-17T06:29:56.410-07:00You know I read all those articles and I am more c...You know I read all those articles and I am more confused than ever. Is she gay or not? It doesn't really matter to me or I think to a lot of people, but this back and forth thing is crazyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-40101745381645088222009-03-31T14:57:00.000-07:002009-03-31T14:57:00.000-07:00Dorothy,I thought this article might be something ...Dorothy,<BR/><BR/>I thought this article might be something of interest to you regarding the blog you just posted:<BR/><BR/>http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid76945.aspFloodTheEnginenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-34608315225128652992009-03-25T21:46:00.000-07:002009-03-25T21:46:00.000-07:00i skip some part, but the pointis that she said sh...i skip some part, but the point<BR/>is that she said she is gay, but<BR/>now say she isn't.<BR/><BR/>so, ds what's the matter?<BR/>whoever she likes it's her business. <BR/><BR/>what i think the real matter is<BR/>how can convince people that<BR/>les life style is cool. and<BR/>you choose it cus you like it.<BR/>you believe that's what you want.<BR/><BR/>now you, or i believe then<BR/>what's the real matter?<BR/><BR/>instead of focus on gossip<BR/>think about if you really want<BR/>to make something happen.<BR/><BR/>just my thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-80259624319171128852009-03-25T15:54:00.000-07:002009-03-25T15:54:00.000-07:00This seems SOOOO L word, makes no sense, ambitious...This seems SOOOO L word, makes no sense, ambitious, no story no beginning or end and nothing clearly presented except the boundless WTF's. <BR/><BR/>No wonder Clementine fit right in.<BR/><BR/>No matter I like her and who she fk's isn't important to me..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-84933197940636220082009-03-25T15:32:00.000-07:002009-03-25T15:32:00.000-07:00Hear hear to the new term fauxsexual! (new to me, ...Hear hear to the new term fauxsexual! (new to me, anyway.) <BR/><BR/>It would be great if we didn't need labels, and I'm glad that there are more and more places where that's true. But I remember all too well being that teenager in the suburbs who was so fucking relieved to find out that there were other people dealing with all of this. Until no one needs a label to feel safe, welcome, relieved or not alone, I believe that the rest of us have a responsibility to stand up and be counted. <BR/><BR/>On an individual level, I feel a bit badly for CF, since it seems like she said more than she wished she had about some things (taking home men and women), and DIVA ran with it. However, I still think that that kid in a small town is more important than whether she wants a label, and I'm disappointed that she's changed her mind about that.alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03182612141561309090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-33734957924046275042009-03-25T15:28:00.000-07:002009-03-25T15:28:00.000-07:00"I have never heard of a straight person who refus..."I have never heard of a straight person who refused to label themselves....therefore, no label = not straight in my book."<BR/><BR/>so true!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-54775917552035104152009-03-25T12:18:00.000-07:002009-03-25T12:18:00.000-07:00This old Hasbian-now-Lesbiagain missed the memo st...This old Hasbian-now-Lesbiagain missed the memo stating: "any woman who has sex with another woman is automatically a lesbian or at the very least a bisexual." Way way back in the day when having a mullet was a testament to your les cred labels were important. And I was a pariah for thinking being an out lesbian or bisexual or straight woman is way way more about who you f**k. So what if Clementine Ford dated a woman or had sex with Katherine Moennig and isn't declaring herself a lesbian. Maybe she will figure it out someday. Maybe she won't. Maybe she was just horny. But that's right...in the grand scheme of: All That Is Lesbian And Right you aren't supposed to sport sex a chick. Maybe if more lesbians would sport fuck it would be easier to expect a deviation from the prescribed lavender norm. Guess I'm still a pariah.EdgyJuneCleaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02013113605455418996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-10092079705566207132009-03-25T09:29:00.000-07:002009-03-25T09:29:00.000-07:00Given the reference to Megan Mullally's bisexualit...Given the reference to Megan Mullally's bisexuality, I thought I'd post this new interview:<BR/><BR/>http://www.queerty.com/megan-mullally-on-in-the-motherhood-bisexuality-and-that-karen-jack-spin-off-20090325/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-30572728320260062462009-03-25T06:07:00.000-07:002009-03-25T06:07:00.000-07:00Sometimes I think that celebrities think they soun...Sometimes I think that celebrities think they sound open-minded if they make ambiguous statements about their sexuality -- implying they <I>could</I> be lesbian or bi -- but I think it would be better to state unambiguous support for the LGBT community -- which they don't later backpedal from -- instead of doing a whole bunch of implying-and-retracting about their orientation.<BR/><BR/>Someone struggling with their sexuality would benefit much more from hearing someone they admire say "I support the LGBT community/gay marriage/etc." than getting all these confusing messages about whether the celebrity is queer, and whether the celebrity is out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-22738531019687406192009-03-25T02:30:00.000-07:002009-03-25T02:30:00.000-07:00Hi Dorothy!Long overdue in telling you how wonderf...Hi Dorothy!<BR/><BR/>Long overdue in telling you how wonderful your blog is!! Love it, Love it, LOVE IT!!!!<BR/><BR/>I have to take the Clementine "is she?/isn't she?" ordeal with a grain of salt. I'm not sure I could explain 'fluid sexuality' any better than she did if that's the underpinning of her beliefs. Too damn confussing for this ol' dyke! I can respect the principle of the concept but don't ask me to explain it sober.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Thanks for all you do, Dorothy, I wish you well on this rainy Wednesday!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-70113722866288006482009-03-24T23:05:00.000-07:002009-03-24T23:05:00.000-07:00I think that Clementine seemed a lot more upset ab...I think that Clementine seemed a lot more upset about the shitty journalism by DIVA and the poorly put together article than she did about the supposed coming out. Nowhere in the article did she really come out, DIVA just seemed to manipulate it to sound that way. I think she just wants to remain label free which is entirely her prerogative. She wanted to make it clear that she has dated both women and men before while still remaining label free, and I see no problem with that. I still love her regardless of where she falls in the LGBT community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-4323643541880877112009-03-24T20:00:00.000-07:002009-03-24T20:00:00.000-07:00ds, i'll come back tomorrowand will read them cus ...ds, i'll come back tomorrow<BR/>and will read them cus it's long<BR/>to see it now.<BR/><BR/>thanks for the post, and<BR/>have a good dream.<BR/>good night!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-48663406176609531052009-03-24T19:10:00.000-07:002009-03-24T19:10:00.000-07:00I really appreciated your p.s. about bisexuality. ...I really appreciated your p.s. about bisexuality. in fact i just started my own blog exploring my own sexuality a bit- stop by anytime! wanted to let you know i've been following your blog for awhile and wanted to say thanks for always entertaining and often getting me to think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-47654175230558288542009-03-24T15:54:00.000-07:002009-03-24T15:54:00.000-07:00what a way to get a little more press....but so no...what a way to get a little more press....but so not the way to go.ellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14079147516481465208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-65727258278506804692009-03-24T13:03:00.000-07:002009-03-24T13:03:00.000-07:00Regardles of in or out, I just think it is sad tha...Regardles of in or out, I just think it is sad that we care at all. Yes, we celebrate when someone "joins the club" but why ... because we're starved for representation. I wouldn't care about this story at all if it were just about someone famous' daughter and her boyfriend and being misrepresented in a magazine but you add the gay or bisexual element and we're supposed to care.<BR/><BR/>And, I'm not saying you shouldn't write about it Dorothy because I think you should, it just sucks that you need to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-79442786337286138152009-03-24T12:24:00.000-07:002009-03-24T12:24:00.000-07:00Its no secret in the LA scene that Clementine is d...Its no secret in the LA scene that Clementine is dating Linda Perry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-65007345563711496762009-03-24T11:45:00.000-07:002009-03-24T11:45:00.000-07:00This "in/out/in dance" really does annoy me too. A...This "in/out/in dance" really does annoy me too. As a bisexual, I hate this characteristic that people just love to throw in our faces. I've always identified as bisexual, and I've never doubted that. If I so happen to marry a man, than that doesn't stop making me bi. If I marry a woman, it's the same deal. AND this doesn't mean that I need both at the same time to feel fully satisfied. There, had to let all that rage out :) BUT... <BR/><BR/>It is unfortunate that Clementine Ford felt the need to use this as a means of pleasing her audience or having to dance around her story about bringing home men and women when clearly, at the time, she was inferring something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-31352327210151842962009-03-24T11:11:00.000-07:002009-03-24T11:11:00.000-07:00i don't blame her. The way that article read not ...i don't blame her. The way that article read not only was she a big gay, but a slutty big gay having sex all over the l word set. Not to mention re-outing someone else who has never outed themselves, who is slowing crawling out of the closet herself.<BR/><BR/>i would also be pissed enough to go running back to the closet. <BR/><BR/>personally i wish that she made a big announcement saying she is gay and proud etc but not with that kind of smutty interview attached.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-91533853270075807962009-03-24T10:51:00.000-07:002009-03-24T10:51:00.000-07:00I'm pretty sure this is an everybody's-to-blame so...I'm pretty sure this is an everybody's-to-blame sort of thing. DIVA seems to have taken a few things out of context and then restructured them to their own means. CF seems to be suffering from a touch of cowardice and hypocrisy, as so many celebrities are when it comes to their sexuality. Shame. That private pride parade would have been fun...Norma Desmondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04064997154001326287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-77952595808700245662009-03-24T10:26:00.000-07:002009-03-24T10:26:00.000-07:00I was going to forgive Clementine for being young ...I was going to forgive Clementine for being young and naive and new to the Hollywood game, but alas, I found out she's 30. <BR/><BR/>Nope. Can't use age as an excuse.<BR/><BR/>I think DIVA did inflate somewhat, but timing suggests a bit of back pedaling on Clementine's part too.<BR/><BR/>AH well...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-14701703970375429442009-03-24T09:47:00.000-07:002009-03-24T09:47:00.000-07:00As a bi person of a certain age (over 40), it real...As a bi person of a certain age (over 40), it really does none of us any good that celebs are constantly making declarations about their sexuality, and then declaring something else. I get that sexuality is fluid, and people change who they want to be with over time (butch protector, femme fatale, man, woman, etc.). However, constantly coming out and changing direction, at what we perceive to be advantageous times in your career is insincere. I like Clementine Ford, I adore Cybill Shepherd and wish them both all the best, but I just wish we didn't have to suffer the general public's derision of, "oh sure you're bi, until you find the right man and then declare you never were..." sigh.J9https://www.blogger.com/profile/03910637383968387023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-91017257685575470442009-03-24T09:33:00.000-07:002009-03-24T09:33:00.000-07:00I was looking forward to reading your take on this...I was looking forward to reading your take on this, Snarker! I am concerned that DIVA may have dropped the ball here ... or had a lapse in ethics. I mean, the fact that their managing editor let through that snippet about Clementine Ford having actual sex on the set of TLW is just sad. ANY editor worth their salt should have known they would need to double and triple fact-check that sentence. That makes me suspect that DIVA inflated Ford's statements. Disappointing. But Ford is also disappointing for not answering TVG's question.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-44284161667219198052009-03-24T09:26:00.001-07:002009-03-24T09:26:00.001-07:00I have never heard of a straight person who refuse...I have never heard of a straight person who refused to label themselves....therefore, no label = not straight in my book.<BR/><BR/>Of course Diva went a little overboard, but Clementine's reaction (whether she is queer or not): LAME.Natazzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13602667069762466989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-91427311304434959252009-03-24T09:26:00.000-07:002009-03-24T09:26:00.000-07:00The only time that back pedaling may work in your ...The only time that back pedaling may work in your favor is in a basketball game. The rest of the time you just look foolish.jennifer from pittsburghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188641511998447474noreply@blogger.com