tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post1756096769171572835..comments2024-03-27T10:34:14.352-07:00Comments on Dorothy Surrenders: Unbreak my heartDorothy Snarkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10143059192565751994noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-10031252764920745322009-11-12T06:07:07.432-08:002009-11-12T06:07:07.432-08:00Emma Thompson has proven herself to be a very supe...Emma Thompson has proven herself to be a very superficial crowd pleaser. If she was not aware of the "facts" why did she sign the Polanski petition in the first place and exactly what "facts" caused her to flip flop. Did she bother to find out why others like Natalie Portman signed the petition or do their "facts" not matter also? One does not have to look very deep to realize that Geimer's testimony and Polanski's plea may both be false. The "facts" are that without a trial one cannot conclude what the truth is as it lies somewhere between Polanski knew Geimer was 13 and persisted in the assault despite her saying no or Polanski thought Geimer was much older and Geimer was "willing". We have several contradictory pieces of evidence.<br />1. Geimers testimony claiming that she said no.<br />2. The probation report claiming that there is evidence that Geimer was “willing”.<br />3. Polanski’s plea bargain claiming he knew Geimer was 13.<br />4. Polanski’s autobiography claiming he did not know Geimer was 13.<br />5. Three witnesses testified that Geimer could have passed for around 18. <br />6. Geimer states she thinks Polanski knew her age but apparently did not tell Polanski her age. <br />7. Geimer later stated that although she said no, she was not raped. <br />8. Geimer intended not to ever report the incident.<br />9. Geimer’s mother who reported the incident did not show up at her daughter’s testimony.<br />10. Geimer apparently pushed for the plea bargain whereas Polanski had to be convinced. <br />The "facts" are that in its current state of murky ambiguity the Polanski case is a very poor one with which to make a point about rape cases because we really do not know the "facts" of what actually happened. We cannot even conclude that beyond a reasonable doubt that any crime took place since an affirmative defence to “unlawful intercourse” was that the accused did not know the victim’s age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-70770605443402870422009-11-09T20:53:47.232-08:002009-11-09T20:53:47.232-08:00That's fantastic! I was saddened when I read ...That's fantastic! I was saddened when I read she signed it. Good for her for having a conscience and once again proving her good judgment. <br /><br />Kudos to Caitlin for bringing this up!Beckynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-47036799353867682582009-11-06T17:32:47.196-08:002009-11-06T17:32:47.196-08:00Caitlin,
Great work! I'm relieved Emma is pu...Caitlin,<br /><br />Great work! I'm relieved Emma is pulling her signature after she reviewed the facts. I'm sure alot of these actors who signed it are not aware and hope they will reconsider their support.<br /><br />For our Anonymous fan of Morena Baccarin. She is an amazing actor who I've followed since Firefly with Joss Whedon. I'm sure you'll find Ms. Snarker is an equal opportunity lesbian. Cote de Pablo, Sarah Shahi and Sara Ramirez have graced her blog a number of times. These aren't the only latina women.<br /><br />:DTechFem50https://www.blogger.com/profile/07358605262627439974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-56803456649392583362009-11-06T15:15:21.231-08:002009-11-06T15:15:21.231-08:00Hey there,
Thanks for the kind comments. Just to ...Hey there,<br /><br />Thanks for the kind comments. Just to confirm that Emma Thompson has officially rung and requested that her name be removed from the petition now.<br /><br />Apparently it's going to be in the arts section of The Independent tomorrow (Saturday 7th Nov) if you want to check it out.<br /><br />Here's hoping we find some way to contact the other celebrities on the petition. If media interest increases on this, I'll do my best to use it to ask others to follow in Emma's footsteps.<br /><br />Love to all<br /><br />CaitlinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-51331301751498813652009-11-06T08:57:15.017-08:002009-11-06T08:57:15.017-08:00Oh, PS - I just realized you have a link to Caitli...Oh, PS - I just realized you have a link to Caitlin's blog. Thanks!!Carolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-41926198553077178882009-11-06T08:53:25.830-08:002009-11-06T08:53:25.830-08:00Oh, Lord - I didn't even KNOW Emma was on the ...Oh, Lord - I didn't even KNOW Emma was on the list until now - when I also learn she's taking it off! I truly adore Emma and I'm just freakin' grateful that I didn't know until now. That would've been a pissed off disappointment I could do without in my life.<br /><br />Dorothy: Quite seriously. Is there any way of contacting Caitlin to thank her for getting hands-on involved???? She's *my* weekend crush.<br /><br />And Anon 11:57? Also quite seriously, what are you on? Besides your way off base accusation of racism (Have you read her all her Padma crushings? Any other postings? At all?), Dorothy is pretty consistent on her "product" here. If you don't like, find some other blog that you do. And good luck with that.Carolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-91582101394798610712009-11-05T19:56:16.620-08:002009-11-05T19:56:16.620-08:00I am glad to read that Emma reconsidered. Polanski...I am glad to read that Emma reconsidered. Polanski had a hard early life, I know. Does that excuse raping a little girl?! I have two adopted children who have been through terrible abuse in early life and in orphanages, and yet they are sweet, good kids. Early childhood trauma should not excuse his or anyone's behavior. A crime is a crime.Deehttp://deescribbler.typepad.com/my_weblog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-33088992168214626562009-11-05T18:07:29.395-08:002009-11-05T18:07:29.395-08:00I do like to hear news like this. Thanks for shar...I do like to hear news like this. Thanks for sharing.Making Spacehttp://makingspacethejourneyout.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-21432370927681357832009-11-05T18:00:12.211-08:002009-11-05T18:00:12.211-08:00damn! 'anonymous at 11:57 a.m.'---that big...damn! 'anonymous at 11:57 a.m.'---that big fat chip on your shoulder obviously hurts!---sheez!ellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01534457628722673877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-23239957186515491692009-11-05T17:57:27.645-08:002009-11-05T17:57:27.645-08:00way to go caitlin....awesome!!!!way to go caitlin....awesome!!!!ellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01534457628722673877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-20214646391728844232009-11-05T15:12:59.463-08:002009-11-05T15:12:59.463-08:00Wonderful!Wonderful!Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09184264847544085102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-72369640441209179242009-11-05T12:26:16.337-08:002009-11-05T12:26:16.337-08:00Umm... if you are going to go on a rant about Doro...Umm... if you are going to go on a rant about Dorothy Snarkers article on AfterEllen and her adulation for Elizabeth Mitchell on "V" and not for the "latina actress" as you put it, than I would ask that you at least get your facts straight.<br /><br />First, if you are talking about the "lead" on "V" being the actress that plays the leader of the visitors, Anna, that would be Brazilian born actress Morena Baccarin. <br />Second there is also costar Lourdes Benedicto (American born and whose parents are Filipino and Dominican/Spanish born).<br /><br />As for Elizabeth Mitchell, seeing as "After Ellen" is a web site that caters to lesbians and bisexuals, Elizabeth has long been a "lesbian icon" from her appearances opposite Angelina Jolie in "GIA" as well as playing lesbian Dr. Kim Legaspi on "ER".<br /><br />As far as Dorothy not "promoting the latina"... why is it her job to promote anyone? Dorothy was simply writing an article that contained her opinion...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-76655708804553404932009-11-05T12:02:11.425-08:002009-11-05T12:02:11.425-08:00Makes me love her even moreMakes me love her even moreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-26561942488006478132009-11-05T11:57:54.089-08:002009-11-05T11:57:54.089-08:00"not our Emma"?
Whose Emma?
Um I'm n..."not our Emma"?<br />Whose Emma?<br />Um I'm not on your: "let's celebrate every single white woman on Earth train" and in fact I am wondering why in your article that appeared on AfterEllen you hype some obscure secondary blonde haired characacter on the new series "V" instead of promoting the Latina: Elizabeth Morena who is the star of the damn show? Was it because the other actress is white? I see that After Ellen has all of its writers in lock step with der fuhrer Sarah Warn.<br /><br />Read the complete scathing review at:<br /><br />http://bit.ly/4mz8GTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-7826336252665642822009-11-05T10:31:26.802-08:002009-11-05T10:31:26.802-08:00Bravo Emma. Bravo Shakeville.
This makes me wond...Bravo Emma. Bravo Shakeville. <br />This makes me wonder about reaching out to some of our other until-now-icons like Tilda Swinton, Natalie Portman and others. <br /><br />If anyone has a means of reaching them & would like a petition signed expressing our disappointment & anger at their supporting Polanski's release, I'd sign.dcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-77955537838672594542009-11-05T10:24:40.515-08:002009-11-05T10:24:40.515-08:00I was so happy when I read it!
emma thompson real...I was so happy when I read it!<br /><br />emma thompson really broke my heart when she signed the petition, I just couldn't believe it and was devastated.<br /><br />I only hope she really does it.<br /><br />;) babs;) babsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-68920032828273363812009-11-05T09:40:07.047-08:002009-11-05T09:40:07.047-08:00Thank you Emma and Caitlin. Many more survivors o...Thank you Emma and Caitlin. Many more survivors of sexual assault, rape will thank you.WannabeVirginia W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16507756727246102557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-73391508531403093142009-11-05T08:52:54.907-08:002009-11-05T08:52:54.907-08:00I was very pleased to hear this, also.
I mean, if...I was very pleased to hear this, also.<br /><br />I mean, if you leave out Maine, it's been a pretty good week. Natalie Portman hinted towards a reconsideration of orientation (the sexy kind), and Kate Winslet had happy times in court-land.Stephhttp://www.twitter.com/HeadRollsOffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-2231537529459400992009-11-05T08:40:06.355-08:002009-11-05T08:40:06.355-08:00GETTING ALL TEARY EYED!GETTING ALL TEARY EYED!pebblesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-21625407196938874992009-11-05T08:27:33.181-08:002009-11-05T08:27:33.181-08:00I was SO RELIEVED when I read that yesterday. Of ...I was SO RELIEVED when I read that yesterday. Of course, I'll be MORE relieved when her name actually comes off the list, but, for now, I'll just be happy the intention is there. Thank God no our Emma.Norma Desmondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04064997154001326287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-90369236252938128522009-11-05T06:47:23.301-08:002009-11-05T06:47:23.301-08:00Thank you, Caitlin!!!! Well done!!! Thank you, Emm...Thank you, Caitlin!!!! Well done!!! Thank you, Emma!!! And thank you, DS, for reporting the story!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-27931101931895397932009-11-05T06:20:35.036-08:002009-11-05T06:20:35.036-08:00Makes me wonder how many signed without bothering ...Makes me wonder how many signed without bothering to understand all the facts in the case. Even worse, all those who do know and signed anyway.<br /><br />Thanks Emma, for listening and acting according to your conscience.Big Shamuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15297361034783510191noreply@blogger.com