tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post5360103602232366423..comments2024-03-28T07:25:19.546-07:00Comments on Dorothy Surrenders: Thank you, AmericaDorothy Snarkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10143059192565751994noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-22451034173155709272008-11-06T13:52:00.000-08:002008-11-06T13:52:00.000-08:00Good article, not least because it doesn't descend...Good article, not least because it doesn't descend to the gay v. black argument that gets wheeled out, as if all minorities are separate and battling it out against each other. <BR/><BR/>From the 'other' side of the Atlantic Obama's victory feels momentous. The passing of prop 8 is a horrible blow and an affront to decency in its most basic sense, but... here's a president who specifically acknowledged gay folk in his acceptance speech. There may be the same homophobia in the country as previously, but at least you have an administration coming along that is looking to address inequalities.<BR/><BR/>Playing the vulnerable off against each other damages us all, ignores our commonalities and screws over queer women of colour even more than ever. And that really isn't cool.<BR/><BR/>So... Congratulations, and good luck in the struggle against homophobia (and sexism and racism)<BR/>xAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-2206952946349301352008-11-06T00:36:00.000-08:002008-11-06T00:36:00.000-08:00Oh, forgot - CONGRATS AMERICA! YOU DONE GOOD :)Oh, forgot - CONGRATS AMERICA! YOU DONE GOOD :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-15965627324715594092008-11-06T00:34:00.000-08:002008-11-06T00:34:00.000-08:00On Prop 8: I think we have to take a leaf out of O...On Prop 8: I think we have to take a leaf out of Obama's book and do the nitty gritty ground work, so we can build overwhelming support for same sex marriages and win down the road.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-51250860043717928432008-11-05T23:54:00.000-08:002008-11-05T23:54:00.000-08:00Gay. It's the new black.Dot, I dig you, but forgiv...Gay. It's the new black.<BR/><BR/>Dot, I dig you, but forgive me if I don't share your unfettered optimism. <BR/><BR/>The choice was between a white guy who lectures us on the sanctity of marriage, but upgraded his handicapped wife for a younger, richer model, or a black guy who advocates separate but equal.<BR/><BR/>I'm just not willing to give it a big HURRAH.<BR/><BR/>Is it great that the US jumped the racial hurdle? You bet. <BR/><BR/>Do I love that blacks, whites, and hispanics have joined in a Rainbow Coalition to decide that gays are the new convenient place to take a dump?<BR/><BR/>Well, notsomuch.<BR/><BR/>When a president comes and says the word "gay" as something more than a rhetorical device....then <BR/><BR/>THEN...<BR/><BR/>I'll tear up.<BR/><BR/>Until then, I'll weep for my neighbors who were swept to the law's margins, as they previously wept for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-12378981066748414082008-11-05T22:52:00.000-08:002008-11-05T22:52:00.000-08:00Amen, Ms. Snarker--on both counts. It sounds like...Amen, Ms. Snarker--on both counts. It sounds like many of us across the country got misty-eyed at that hour. The weight has been lifted and it feels so good to have hope again, for the first time in a loooong time.<BR/><BR/>As for Prop 8, I don't even know what to say. So sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-58418943226277537972008-11-05T21:11:00.000-08:002008-11-05T21:11:00.000-08:00i'm very happy that obama won, and i almost cried ...i'm very happy that obama won, and i almost cried when i heard that prop 8 passed. but i still have hope for a better future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-91770720386531660722008-11-05T19:05:00.000-08:002008-11-05T19:05:00.000-08:00First time commenter :)I'm really disappointed tha...First time commenter :)<BR/><BR/>I'm really disappointed that Prop 8 passed, and it really put a damper on Obama's victory. Even if Prop 8 doesn't directly effect me it's impossible to feel satisfied when fellow Americans are still being denied their basic rights. The good guys and gals will win eventually, I'm just sorry that it won't be today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-27104589136715478752008-11-05T15:38:00.000-08:002008-11-05T15:38:00.000-08:00I feel totally speechless and overwhelmed by this ...I feel totally speechless and overwhelmed by this amazing development in America. What hope this gives people around the world to see America choose a leader with this incredible mix of confidence, compassion, ethical responsibility, empathy and intelligence. <BR/><BR/>But Prop 8, that makes my heart sink, too. We have been fortunate to have the right to marry in Canada for a few years now. It will come - it has to, the tide's changing. I am sure that your fight to prevent the ban was not in vain. When I heard Obama say the words, "GAY and straight" in his victory speech, it spoke to me of potential. If any leader is going to listen and make things right, I think it would be him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-49678490637076674562008-11-05T11:54:00.000-08:002008-11-05T11:54:00.000-08:00I read and hear all the talk about the progress an...I read and hear all the talk about the progress and change that has come about with this presidential election and yet...I feel like I am on the outside, looking in.<BR/><BR/>And I don't expect any support from the Democratic party on this matter.<BR/><BR/>I feel that we are very much on our own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-223593456468728502008-11-05T10:13:00.000-08:002008-11-05T10:13:00.000-08:00I am saddened by the fact that in the year 2008 th...I am saddened by the fact that in the year 2008 the people of California would support a law that is exclusionary, unequal, and bigoted. Can someone please explain to me how your gay neighbors having the right to marry would absolutely destroy your little bubble??<BR/><BR/>Whatever....they want to keep their high divorce rates all to themselves, I guess.Penny Cillinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18384834884064085626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-15973238649414783362008-11-05T10:03:00.000-08:002008-11-05T10:03:00.000-08:00Last night, when Obama won, I cheered and shouted ...Last night, when Obama won, I cheered and shouted and applauded. I listened to him speak and felt hope. I didn't cry, I grinned, from ear to ear. It wasn't until a few hours later that I cried. The results for Prop 8 were coming in, and looking terrible. I stayed up all last night, obsessively refreshing the ballot counts. After the roller coaster ride of emotions last night and the lack of sleep I feel more drained then 2 years of campaigning and weeks of negative ads ever made me feel. I'm disillusioned, in my state and in my neighbors. And I'm pretty sure I'm still in shock, with the worst yet to come when it finally sinks in that so many California voters, so many of my NEIGHBORS, would choose to take my rights away from me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-17295039862850647822008-11-05T08:54:00.000-08:002008-11-05T08:54:00.000-08:00What you should have been crying about was not the...What you should have been crying about was not the election, but that the same seemingly "open-minded," progressive people who voted for Barack Obama overwhelmingly in California didn't think Gay people were equal too.<BR/><BR/>That's what upsets me. I'm happy Obama is president now...but he said openly again and again that he wasn't for same-sex marriage.<BR/><BR/>Looks like many of his followers believed it too.<BR/><BR/>I can't believe Prop 8 passed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-74363816558971938312008-11-05T08:24:00.000-08:002008-11-05T08:24:00.000-08:00Oh Happy Day!One huge chunk of fear and prejudice ...Oh Happy Day!<BR/>One huge chunk of fear and prejudice has been chipped off the face of the planet.<BR/>I too, cried with happiness when the announcement came last night. Seeing the crowd at Grant Park - the pure joy on faces and unabashed tears being shed was a scene that will forever be etched in my memory.<BR/>Sadly, Prop.8 will pass. Can it be that only one fear can be overcome at a time in this world? I also mourn the axing of Dr. Erica Hahn. She may not really exist, but Brooke Smith does and I will surely miss her.<BR/>All that aside, I dare anyone to wipe the smile off my face today and for many days to come.<BR/>Yes we can!madmagshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07656259128540100252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-43519452321243374322008-11-05T08:06:00.000-08:002008-11-05T08:06:00.000-08:00I'm sorry ... I'm so sorry ... but I just ...I'm sorry ... I'm so sorry ... but I just can't.<BR/><BR/>I am so angry, hurt, and almost crying this morning I can't begin to describe it ... yes, wonderful Obama won, woohoo & all that ... but defeating Prop 8 was my hope, my change.<BR/><BR/>How? How could they do this? I know it's too close to call as yet, but it looks like we're going down ... there are challenges, and I fight so hard, but a person can only take so much.<BR/><BR/>I'm moving to the EU, as my huge extended family is in the Netherlands, once my PhD is done in a year and a half. I want to live somewhere civilised, where I am recognised and considered as a whole human being. <BR/><BR/>And to think, for a moment there, I thought that perhaps I could be a member of this society, I actually believed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-57388486237991444952008-11-05T06:56:00.000-08:002008-11-05T06:56:00.000-08:00We cheered like maniacs when the race was called f...We cheered like maniacs when the race was called for Obama last night, scaring the hell out of the dog, but she'll get over it.<BR/>Imagine having a president who believes in workers earning a living wage, available healthcare to all, rebuilding the nation's infrastructure, education v. edumacation, foreign policy that isn't based on how Halliburton can make a buck, and HOPE.<BR/>I'm giddy!jennifer from pittsburghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188641511998447474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-66467838711041984462008-11-05T06:52:00.000-08:002008-11-05T06:52:00.000-08:00Congrats!Congrats!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-46629465967806758692008-11-05T06:10:00.000-08:002008-11-05T06:10:00.000-08:00The pride that rose in me as those numbers went up...The pride that rose in me as those numbers went up was overwhelming. For the first time in years I felt like my voice was heard and I might see a world in which my son could grow up without the limitations and boundaries put in place that I had watched accumulate as I grew up.<BR/><BR/>I remember fighting to save creative writing and performing arts classes in my high school and the terrible loss I felt when they went anyway no matter how many signatures both teacher and student I had. And all so that the sports programs could receive that funding instead!<BR/><BR/> Finally, last night I had made a difference and in so doing had met new people and old faces from my high school days that understood and marched with me to bring my rediculously republican and low income area as far as to give Obama 39% of our votes, the highest democratic vote we had achieved for prez in 10 years or more!<BR/><BR/>To hear that Prop 8 should even come near passing much less pass makes me sick! If it has I hope that it wont be long before it is removed, negated by an intelligent and less close-minded people that see how limiting and horrendous this thing is to it's people. It's so sad to see that I was wrong about just how open-minded and fair we had become as a nation. The beauty in all of those wedding portraits made me feel that we had truly wont the right to call ourselves americans.<BR/><BR/>I agree with you, I am so proud of our electing Obama and the bright future that is sure to come with it as we all work toward that change he refers to but my heart sinks to think that things like Prop 8 could ever pass!AmandaMLyonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12416497472705278963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-66933053091813277222008-11-05T05:57:00.000-08:002008-11-05T05:57:00.000-08:00Thank you america.This change break historical bar...Thank you america.<BR/>This change break historical barriers, what's next?<BR/><BR/>There is more freedom coming until next barrier.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Congratulations brothers and sisters!!The Fake Spaniards Showhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09491148647333777737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-63436753189778135702008-11-05T05:55:00.000-08:002008-11-05T05:55:00.000-08:00Lovely.Lovely.Beatricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12281224454384987538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-27874431432865880342008-11-05T05:10:00.000-08:002008-11-05T05:10:00.000-08:00Im very proud of you!!.The new era is comming :D!P...Im very proud of you!!.<BR/>The new era is comming :D!<BR/>Prop 8 will be for sure.<BR/>Congrats from spainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-50160026004522106372008-11-05T04:52:00.000-08:002008-11-05T04:52:00.000-08:00Wondering how Phyllis Lion must feel this morning ...Wondering how Phyllis Lion must feel this morning after half of the state she lives in basically is reducing her marriage and benefits to peanuts. <BR/><BR/>What can I say?Misgracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18124244392949135583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-18457578776411502002008-11-05T04:43:00.000-08:002008-11-05T04:43:00.000-08:00Two steps forward, one step back, indeed.I cried t...Two steps forward, one step back, indeed.<BR/><BR/>I cried too when he won.<BR/><BR/>And then I told my fiance we had to back up the wedding planning and pick another state. :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-86394039982483726502008-11-05T04:23:00.000-08:002008-11-05T04:23:00.000-08:00great job, america...!this is just the beginning.great job, america...!<BR/><BR/>this is just the beginning.2partsbravehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00486070254990098766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-79519114928097269462008-11-05T04:00:00.000-08:002008-11-05T04:00:00.000-08:00It was the best of times...it was the worst of tim...It was the best of times...it was the worst of times.<BR/><BR/>Fantastic news on President. Sadness on the propositions.<BR/><BR/>Congrats on getting quoted in the Trib's entertainment blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-12338246877316095282008-11-05T03:50:00.000-08:002008-11-05T03:50:00.000-08:00so what is up next in the fight against prop 8?so what is up next in the fight against prop 8?ravajhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03341489124504088158noreply@blogger.com