tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post5117603736767672369..comments2024-03-28T07:25:19.546-07:00Comments on Dorothy Surrenders: Snarker’s ChoiceDorothy Snarkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10143059192565751994noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-18613590603095876062008-02-02T07:19:00.000-08:002008-02-02T07:19:00.000-08:00I'm French, I'm a Woman, I'm bisexual, I'm white, ...I'm French, I'm a Woman, I'm bisexual, I'm white, if I were American I would go for Barrack.<BR/><BR/>Why ?<BR/><BR/>Even though I'm a feminist I thnik Hillary and Her husband lied a lot, got involved in some corrupted affairs in the past.<BR/>I think they are clever but not really honest.<BR/>They've allways been or had power.<BR/><BR/>Barrack Obama comes from a minority, one that has never been in power or rarely in a powerful developped country.<BR/>He has worked with people as a social worker and knows betterand has a better insight in the flaws of the social security systeme for exemple.<BR/>He knows that this country needs "social justice"<BR/>I would be very admirative if American chose him to represent the Democrat party in the general elections.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad you'd go anyway for the democrat candidate whoever is chosen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-39871337970918423632008-02-01T18:16:00.000-08:002008-02-01T18:16:00.000-08:00Interesting:http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2...Interesting:<BR/><BR/>http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-2194394394072958302008-02-01T11:18:00.000-08:002008-02-01T11:18:00.000-08:00It is a close call, I was also undecided. I heard...It is a close call, I was also undecided. I heard Obama speak this week in Denver and he is extraordinary, as Hillary said herself in the video.<BR/><BR/>It required plenty of research on my part. I am an attorney and it required plenty of effort to distinguish the candidates and make a decision. It was time well spent, because I felt an obligation to educate myself rather than go on gut feelings. <BR/><BR/>After careful consideration, I am voting for Hillary in our caucus on Tuesday. Nobody can make your mind up for you. I read everything I could, and I am confident that I made the correct decision.<BR/><BR/>The New York Times has a good tool showing the transcript and the video of the debate in California. When it comes right down to it, I agree with Hillary more.<BR/><BR/>I can honestly say that I am voting with both my Heart and my brain on Tuesday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-68929678699863093872008-01-31T22:24:00.000-08:002008-01-31T22:24:00.000-08:00Imagine a Clinton/Obama ticket?He's a poet and ide...Imagine a Clinton/Obama ticket?<BR/><BR/>He's a poet and idealist, she's a warrior and realist. If they can find a way to make it work together, the world will be an awesome place to live in, again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-17555749477117430912008-01-31T11:54:00.000-08:002008-01-31T11:54:00.000-08:00Experience matters. Not necessarily experience as...Experience matters. Not necessarily experience as an elected official.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-72464540267360942392008-01-31T11:26:00.000-08:002008-01-31T11:26:00.000-08:00All due respect, but there is no relevance to the ...<I>All due respect, but there is no relevance to the fact that Barack has held an elected office longer than Hillary.</I><BR/><BR/>Hilary's campaign has made "experience" an issue in the campaign, for example, when Hilary herself comments that we can't afford on the job training for our next president.<BR/><BR/>http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/11/19/obama_and_clinton_sound_simila.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-15639458986128375832008-01-31T08:38:00.000-08:002008-01-31T08:38:00.000-08:00Could Barack POSSIBLY tell me why I should vote fo...Could Barack POSSIBLY tell me why I should vote for him, instead of telling me why I shouldn't vote for Hillary? <BR/><BR/>Me thinks not. Hillary's my vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-21259482103461676412008-01-31T08:24:00.000-08:002008-01-31T08:24:00.000-08:00All due respect, but there is no relevance to the ...All due respect, but there is no relevance to the fact that Barack has held an elected office longer than Hillary. <BR/>Some of the most powerful people in this country have never been elected. <BR/>Karl Rove? The Cabinet members are not elected. Nor the Attorney General or The Supreme Court.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-77578437719664787312008-01-31T06:47:00.000-08:002008-01-31T06:47:00.000-08:00Ok, last comment.I'm not a US citizen, but I am a ...Ok, last comment.<BR/><BR/><I>I'm not a US citizen, but I am a UK one (ok, so we can't actually be citizens, but that's besides the point!), and to me, Obama smacks of Tony Blair. He's such an inspirational person and really moves the crowds, but in the long term has been absolutely awful for the country. It was a case of all talk and inspiration and doing very few positive things.<BR/><BR/>On the basis of that, I'd go with Hillary Clinton. She strikes me as a realist who will actually get the job done, perhaps without the glitz and glamour of Obama, but here in Germany we've got Angela Merkel and she's doing a rather fine job indeed.</I><BR/><BR/>This was interesting to me, because at the time Blair became PM in 1997, he was likened to, and closely supported by, then-US President Bill Clinton.<BR/><BR/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,916233,00.html<BR/><BR/>This has been an interesting post, and as you can tell, I've gotten a lot from people's comments. Obviously we are going to have different opinions, but I think it is good to discuss these things, and, however you decide, I would urge people to read up and follow up, because this is an important decision we are going to be making this year.<BR/><BR/>Now I really do have to go to work...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-28612387602888933222008-01-31T06:23:00.000-08:002008-01-31T06:23:00.000-08:00I have to go to work, so I have to stop posting co...I have to go to work, so I have to stop posting comments, but I want to post this link, if anyone is interested, because it responds to some of the misinformation about Barack Obama:<BR/><BR/>http://factcheck.barackobama.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-60932512703619843192008-01-31T06:20:00.000-08:002008-01-31T06:20:00.000-08:00I like both Hillary and Barack but I was upset whe...<I>I like both Hillary and Barack but I was upset when B took a shot at H for her vote on the war and he was out stomping and didn't cast a vote. </I><BR/><BR/>Barack was in the Illinois state legislature at the time of the vote on the war in 2003 - so it is not correct that he somehow failed to appear to vote in the US Senate. He was elected to the US Senate in 2004.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-67479913970054240172008-01-31T06:17:00.000-08:002008-01-31T06:17:00.000-08:00Im so annoyed that people make such a big deal ove...<I>Im so annoyed that people make such a big deal over a black president. I mean, doesn't this seem a little racist to some people? This suggests that a black man can do a better job over a white man...</I><BR/><BR/>I think what it reflects is that, just like we haven't ever had a female president, we haven't ever had a non-white president. Both would be important firsts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-79546873415230669542008-01-31T06:14:00.000-08:002008-01-31T06:14:00.000-08:00I do support Obama, and it's not because he's blac...I do support Obama, and it's not because he's black. It's because he is very thoughtful, and also practical, and I think he is someone who could build the coalitions necessary to get things done in this country.<BR/><BR/>I also agree with the poster who pointed out that Barack's political experience is more extensive than most people realize (he has held elected office for more time than Hilary).<BR/><BR/>I would like to see a woman president, but I would not base my decision on gender, or an assumption that a woman will be more likely to have my interests at heart (see Exhibit A: Margaret Thatcher.)<BR/><BR/>I really think the "black person versus woman" divide is ridiculous. Black and female are not mutually exclusive categories.<BR/><BR/>Finally, while I will vote for whoever the democratic candidate turns out to be come November, some of the Clinton campaign strategies of late - implying that South Carolina always goes black so it doesn't matter that Barack won it, misrepresenting Barack's record on issues like choice and other issues - really have not impressed me. It looks underhanded and also like they don't have anything better to challenge Barack with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-84807305372893696622008-01-31T03:53:00.000-08:002008-01-31T03:53:00.000-08:00Im so annoyed that people make such a big deal ove...Im so annoyed that people make such a big deal over a black president. I mean, doesn't this seem a little racist to some people? This suggests that a black man can do a better job over a white man...surely the colour of a persons skin shouldn't immediately make them a better or a worse president? What makes a white president more able then a black one? And vice versa. I just don't like the way people immediately go for Obama and make a massive deal because he's black. It would not be this massive hoo-ha if he was white. I'm not racist at all,not by any means... but i do think there are equal rights now and we should listen to what the actual candidates have to say about what they will do to change. Of course, then there's the argument that Hillary is a woman and what makes her more able/less able then a man? Gender issues again. Personally i do think woman and men would do things differently, but i do think the colour of a persons skin would make a difference...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-8783568905748095632008-01-30T22:56:00.000-08:002008-01-30T22:56:00.000-08:00I'm a lifelong democrat, longtime political junkie...I'm a lifelong democrat, longtime political junkie, a recent follower of this blog, and a first time commentor. It took me forever to decide who to vote for - after months of research I eventually ended up finding out that Hillary was the candidate for me. I'm in awe of her intellect and passion - she spends hours reading hundreds of pages of briefing memos each night - she's determined to have all the facts to make the best, most informed decision possible. I truly respect her, and believe she is best prepared to lead this country.<BR/><BR/>One last thing - I had an internship with the Clinton campaign over winter break, and I was lucky enough to meet/have conversations with Amber, America, and Chelsea. What you saw in that video is the total truth - wonderful people, passionate, and so down to earth - they all thanked me for giving up my winter break to work for Hillary. So yes - Hillary '08!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-75554942363600222302008-01-30T21:59:00.000-08:002008-01-30T21:59:00.000-08:00Has anyone noticed that there has NEVER been a wom...Has anyone noticed that there has NEVER been a woman president in the US?! Why is a vote for a woman not seen as much a change as a vote for a Black man? <BR/><BR/>So please don't make it sound like Hillary Clinton is just a vote for the same old same old.<BR/><BR/>She is NOT her husband and if we believe his influence will be dominant, we are insulting her intelligence and ability.<BR/><BR/>As for those who have criticised her position on Health Care: does anyone remember her Health Care Plan that she tried to get get passed in Bill Clinton's first term? Wasn't it the Republicans who tore it to shreds??? This next GOP will be in a different position, if she wins. The Democrats now have a majority in the House, unlike during Bill's first term in office.<BR/><BR/>The misogyny in the mainstream press and even liberal blogs like Huffpost is relentless, and the whole idea of Obama being "fresh change" is overstating his position. I believe a lot of it is spin. Its buzz rather than substance. He is funded by as many corporate baddies as anyone else. <BR/><BR/>And as for Obama being a symbol of the fact that anyone has access to power in the US: codswallop! Don't believe it. He is as beholden to the faceless corporations who have funded his campaign as the other candidates. EG. He has been generously funded by the Corporation that's been behind the sub-prime scandal in the US.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-67189614670121357322008-01-30T21:10:00.000-08:002008-01-30T21:10:00.000-08:00Vote Hillary Clinton.She's smart and have tons of ...Vote Hillary Clinton.<BR/><BR/>She's smart and have tons of experience in politics. Also the world respect Hillary Clinton and her family, which is a very important factor. The USA needs to win back the worlds respect again. Very, very important.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-92144158827457920332008-01-30T21:06:00.000-08:002008-01-30T21:06:00.000-08:00I'm assuming most of DS readers are democrat or in...I'm assuming most of DS readers are democrat or independent - regardless, please VOTE! Whoever gets the nomination, go out and vote - it's very scary to think that the Supreme Court is dangerously close to leaning in the conservative side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-10042635725436878612008-01-30T19:41:00.000-08:002008-01-30T19:41:00.000-08:00The republicans are flat-out honest that they hate...The republicans are flat-out honest that they hate teh gay. The democrats will toss us under teh bus to please the church folk. Even so, I have to vote democrat. I can't vote 3rd party and we can't have 4 more years of republican. But at this point, I don't care.<BR/><BR/>However for ANYONE who wonders WHY VOTE? -- We've got several old supreme court justices. Want to see another Scalia? Alito? Want to see men who want to run women's lives? Who want to run gay people's lives? Then stay silent, and you'll help get those people on the court. <BR/><BR/>Women fought for the vote! People of color fought for the vote! Don't ignore the power you have....VOTE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-4082807049393255312008-01-30T19:00:00.000-08:002008-01-30T19:00:00.000-08:00I can't vote in the US elections, but my SO can an...I can't vote in the US elections, but my SO can and will (from abroad). Many expats tend to vote for the Republican candidate, so she thought that she would try to make a small difference this time around. <BR/><BR/>Like you she (and I) are torn on this issue. It's hard to separate the mediatization of the campaigns from the reality, which is that this person may potentially be your President for the next four years. <BR/><BR/>I feel that it's no longer about the message, but about how the message is packaged. Barack Obama gives brilliant speeches, but what about the substance of his speeches. Hillary Clinton can be emotional, but will she deliver when the time is there. <BR/><BR/>At the end of the day, do you believe what they are promising in the run-up to this nomination? 'I will do this, give you that, etc.'.<BR/>Once you are in the White House, there are so many other factors that will influence decision-making, including the many powerful lobbyists that make up the Washington scene. <BR/><BR/>It's one thing to be the senator of a state, it's a whole different matter to be in the driver's seat of a nation. <BR/><BR/>In conclusion, I feel that you should try to find out as much as you can about the candidate's track record. Has he/she in the past kept their promises, worked towards upgrading the standard of life in his/her state, improve conditions for people at every level of society? There is a strong indication that they will continue to do this once they are elected.<BR/>And finally, keep an eye on the Republican camp. Depending on who will run on their ticket, you will need a candidate who can run against this person and win the hearts of the Republican electorate and sway those of the last-minute deciders.Misgracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18124244392949135583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-61748928806047930182008-01-30T18:21:00.000-08:002008-01-30T18:21:00.000-08:00Dear Ms. Dorothy...I wish you much luck with comin...Dear Ms. Dorothy...I wish you much luck with coming to a decision in this matter. I am an independent and so will not be voting in the primary come Super Tuesday. But I, too, scratch my head over this...although I guess others will be making the decision for me when it comes to either Hillary or Barack. On one hand, I agree with others when it comes to having concerns about book-ending 8 years of a Bush Administration with Clinton Administrations...yet I keep waiting to hear more substance from Barack as we need someon capable of digging us out of this mighty big hole we are in. So all I can say is...good luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-63286629167556157692008-01-30T17:54:00.000-08:002008-01-30T17:54:00.000-08:00The main thing that stops me with Hillary Clinton ...The main thing that stops me with Hillary Clinton is her authorization for military action against Iraq, and then - when she should certainly have learned a lesson - her authorization relative to Iran. Ack! So, since my first pick has left the race now, it's Obama.Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09184264847544085102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-67920186373351706352008-01-30T17:01:00.000-08:002008-01-30T17:01:00.000-08:00Pitting the popularity/charm quotient of Hillary a...Pitting the popularity/charm quotient of Hillary and Obama almost reminds me of how in 2004, a whole lot of suckers ended up preferring George Bush's "aww, shucks" country charm over John Kerry's seeming over-liberal snootiness. <BR/><BR/>Not that I'm qualified to vote there since I'm an Australian citizen, but anyway, here's my $0.02(with the falling value of your dollar, that may soon be equivalent to AU$0.02, hehehe):<BR/><BR/>My vote would go to Hillary, because I feel that she has a real desire to change her country for the better instead of just ambition to get to the top. She's a somewhat nerdy realist/workaholic who would lose in spades when it comes to celebrity endorsements and popularity but she'll be the one who'll be strong enough to run the country and steer it back from the brink.<BR/><BR/>Agree that the best outcome would be for Hillary and Obama to team up with Obama as vice president. He can start learning detailed policy-making and strategy from her, and then be more than ready to take over from her some day. But right now, when I hear his speeches, I can see how people find him wonderful and inspiring to listen to, but not really finding much substance.<BR/><BR/>Btw, I'm a woman and a person of colour and feel very insulted when people automatically assume that I would vote on the basis of my race or gender alone without as much as a glance as policy offerings!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-3421962142385839612008-01-30T16:18:00.000-08:002008-01-30T16:18:00.000-08:00obamahillary's "experience" is being a president's...obama<BR/>hillary's "experience" is being a president's wife and completely fucking up her effort at giving people health service.<BR/>sorry i can do without that. no more bushes. no more clintons.<BR/>new blood. be daring. take a leap.<BR/>i believe in a world where we are belong if someone is the first woman. first black. first anything. vote in who rocks your boat.FKJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16123000788542217101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-34657161966559795342008-01-30T16:00:00.000-08:002008-01-30T16:00:00.000-08:00As Sally Field said at the Emmys last year when sh...As Sally Field said at the Emmys last year when she received the "Best Actress" award:<BR/><BR/>"If women were to rule the world, there wouldn't be any goddamn war in the first place!"<BR/><BR/>Too right...<BR/><BR/>Change = Hillary, the realist<BR/>Change = Barack, the idealistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com