tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post3481533465493371170..comments2024-03-28T07:25:19.546-07:00Comments on Dorothy Surrenders: Sink the BattleshipsDorothy Snarkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10143059192565751994noreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-8623098780612346832013-03-23T15:06:41.798-07:002013-03-23T15:06:41.798-07:00Yeah and you enjoy obsessing your beloved Lauren a...Yeah and you enjoy obsessing your beloved Lauren and denigrating BO at times in your recaps, you don't play nice either..lol<br /><br />BO becomes a "ass" to you when she's drunk and stated the fact that she always deals with life and death situations and Doc is more staring into petri dishes.... <br /><br />BO life is also endangered when she saves the Fae & Human~<br /><br />So you feel that your beloved Lauren is hurt by this fact??<br /><br />So isn't Lauren a "ass" either when she just flared up and insulted BO about her not finishing high school and not qualified to a Doctor all because BO acts as therapist to help solve a case? <br /><br />So BO is not hurt and your beloved Lauren is not a "ass"??<br /><br />There's always double standard and bias by Lesbians including you LOL<br /><br />GOODBYE~~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-17960038454369653092013-03-09T01:11:05.996-08:002013-03-09T01:11:05.996-08:00As I meet started transmission comments for diary ...As I meet started transmission comments for diary and coat job of lots of rejections. I opine your suggestion would be accommodative for me. I will let you bang if its convert for me too. <a href="http://suegoldstoneinteriors.com/" rel="nofollow">phoenix interior design</a> | <a href="http://suegoldstoneinteriors.com/" rel="nofollow">arizona interior design</a> | <a href="http://suegoldstoneinteriors.com/" rel="nofollow">scottsdale interior designer</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08626476851164389868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-78855362942980634152013-02-28T05:48:59.028-08:002013-02-28T05:48:59.028-08:00In addition to liking TV shows with authentic, hot...In addition to liking TV shows with authentic, hot same-sex women couples, I also like TV shows with authentic drama and conflict. Bo's a succubus, which doesn't make an easy road for a long-term solely monogamous relationship on its face (heh). Add to that her involvement in things that tend to get her hurt, and sexual energy speeding up her healing, well, there you have it. And it adds some wonderfully spicy conflict that will surely cause continued drama on the show. Hopefully the good kind. But I'll tell ya, that's why I loved shows like Xena and Buffy that handled the conflict between X/G and W/T authentically (for the most part). It added to the story and made for some great makeup segments too. Hopefully Doccubus lives happily ever after but if it's smooth sailing the whole way, with kissyface, long nights at home with pinot and movies, and domestic bliss, that makes for a great real life...but boring TV.Sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00812043966901206054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-68550925454658184782013-02-27T21:09:53.746-08:002013-02-27T21:09:53.746-08:00Ms. Snarker, I appreciate your recaps of Lost Girl...Ms. Snarker, I appreciate your recaps of Lost Girl. They are witty and comparatively much more representative of what happens in each episode. However, there must be a better way to generate web hits and pay the rent than with an undermining of a lesbian couple that has become a cult favorite and is, to me, the best representation of two women in love that I’ve seen on teevee North of the border. Unfortunately, your blog appears in a website that encourages mountains to be made out of lesbian couples that upon close inspection are simply molehills, or imaginary couples that only exist in the fantasy world of wishful thinkers (e.g. R&I). I simply don’t know what to make of a harebrained idea about what the writers have planned for Bo and Lauren and Tamsin. At this point in the story of Bo, it just feels like a desperately foolish and typical AfterEllen concoction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-50222843057208875152013-02-27T21:08:40.560-08:002013-02-27T21:08:40.560-08:00989Ms. Snarker, I appreciate your recaps of Lost G...989Ms. Snarker, I appreciate your recaps of Lost Girl. They are witty and comparatively much more representative of what happens in each episode. However, there must be a better way to generate web hits and pay the rent than with an undermining of a lesbian couple that has become a cult favorite and is, to me, the best representation of two women in love that I’ve seen on teevee North of the border. Unfortunately, your blog appears in a website that encourages mountains to be made out of lesbian couples that upon close inspection are simply molehills, or imaginary couples that only exist in the fantasy world of wishful thinkers (e.g. R&I). I simply don’t know what to make of a harebrained idea about what the writers have planned for Bo and Lauren and Tamsin. At this point in the story of Bo, it just feels like a desperately foolish and typical AfterEllen concoction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-407747877655082362013-02-27T20:34:18.977-08:002013-02-27T20:34:18.977-08:00DS is turning Tamsin into a possible threat to Doc...DS is turning Tamsin into a possible threat to Doccubus... all she did was say that while she was a Doccubus fan, the idea of Tamsin/Bo was hot.<br /><br />THAT'S ALL.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-80601015429614452342013-02-27T20:31:04.911-08:002013-02-27T20:31:04.911-08:00One episode. ONE. With a deliberate chi-suck scene...One episode. ONE. With a deliberate chi-suck scene that happened because Bo was depleted and weak -- and DS is turning it into a possible Bo/Tamsin hookup that can pull the rug out from under Bo/Lauren? WTF?Oh, boo hoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-39493945125591265952013-02-26T15:09:47.968-08:002013-02-26T15:09:47.968-08:00I honestly don't understand the vitriol that h...I honestly don't understand the vitriol that has popped up here. I personally dig Doccubus but don't get all upset when other people have other opinions. Anger at Heather Hogan, AE and Ryan Murphey is inappropriate on Snarker's personal blog. Also, for those of you being so hateful and doing so anonymously, get some gumption and sign your posts. You lose all credibility (imo) when you don't even put a name on your comment. Everybody seems fine with shipping non-cannon couples until there's a cannon couple that everyone is expected to like simply because we're lesbians. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. If you don't like the ones being presented, start your own blog rather than attacking other peoples.Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15270956935154391569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-80180569443733945302013-02-26T12:11:28.373-08:002013-02-26T12:11:28.373-08:00I like what you are doing for AE. I support you. A...I like what you are doing for AE. I support you. And what I want to read is an interview with Rachel Skarsten. Interview done by you. I like your respectful but precise questions :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-13179902172139169582013-02-26T12:03:23.630-08:002013-02-26T12:03:23.630-08:00I wanted to say thank you Dorothy Snarker for all ...I wanted to say thank you Dorothy Snarker for all you do. I have been a faithful reader of your site for years, and I have loved every post. It is always nice to be reminded I am not alone in the world. As a lesbian from rural East Texas, that fact can sometimes be hard to remember. From simply talking about loving the ladies to having slightly obsessive feelings about possibly fictitious characters, you have helped me make peace with myself and about coming out. <br /><br />I do not remember how I first heard of Lost Girl, but there is a good chance it was through you and/or AE. I have been watching it since the first season, and I have loved reading your posts about it. You have helped add another dimension to my love for the show, and I appreciate the interviews with Anna Silk and Zoe Palmer on AE.<br /><br />I have always appreciated what you (and HH) do in giving us a place to shelter and share our fandoms and our stories, and I am sorry to see how virulent some of the comments on this post have gotten. I hope some of the responses on this post do not dampen your enthusiasm for what you do, because it does matter. You do make a difference in people's lives. Again, I want to say thank you for the years of support and entertainment I have found through this site and through you.Ashleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01717555239199590647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-40923071631385972142013-02-26T09:20:10.816-08:002013-02-26T09:20:10.816-08:00This is more like it, AE
http://www.afterellen.co...This is more like it, AE<br /><br />http://www.afterellen.com/2013/02/heather-peace-fight-for-video?xrs=synd_twitter_ellenMahlers5thhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05511704290540257618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-53063862349337110702013-02-26T08:58:35.775-08:002013-02-26T08:58:35.775-08:00i agree with the above.. sending you and HH a big ...i agree with the above.. sending you and HH a big hug.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-28443619198212606932013-02-26T08:46:39.518-08:002013-02-26T08:46:39.518-08:00With all due respect, saying that the relationship...With all due respect, saying that the relationship between Bo and Lauren is "just entertainment" and that those who think otherwise should just "cool your tits" not only misses the point entirely -- it's patronizing and offensive. Maybe it's cool these days for women to put down other women using the worst of sexist tropes (PMS'ing? Angry, crazy bitches? Humorless, entitled lesbian fandom? Take some Midol? Wow), but as a second-wave feminist from the paleolithic era, I am really appalled at the level of discourse.<br /><br /> That "whine" aside, I think the debate here had nothing to do with dictating which LG couple the fandom should be shipping - each to her (or his) own. I think Valksy and others here were expressing their disappointment that someone like Ms Snarker, with the bully pulpit influence she enjoys (and deserves, I gather) seemed so primed to jump on the bandwagon of "I want Tamsin and Bo to have sex, it would be awesome. MAKE IT HAPPEN LG WRITERS!!!!" (as suggested by Anon 6:08am) . I guess it would be "entertaining," in a sense, to see Bo fuck practically ANYBODY on the show -- I do enjoy her unabashed sexual energy. But that isn't what sets this show apart - it's the real love relationship that has been developing between Bo and Lauren. Some of us have been waiting 15 years since Ellen's wonderfully comic coming out scene to see American television grow up and catch up, but (unlike Anon 6:29am) I haven't seen much evidence of that. Glee? Teenagers. Rizzoli and Isles? Puh-leeze. So we need a writer with the influence of Ms. Snarker to defend the importance of showcasing this real love story -- set as it is in an otherwordly place -- and letting it unfold for more than an episode or two before reverting to "just entertainment." I hopethe writers and producers had the good sense to know what they have created.Mahlers5thhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05511704290540257618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-69973695938163788512013-02-26T07:49:32.119-08:002013-02-26T07:49:32.119-08:00Snarker... I feel as if you deserve a hug so here ...Snarker... I feel as if you deserve a hug so here is one....*HUG* *squeeze*!!! Keep calm and carry on! You are awesome!!!! p.s if you can pass along the hug to heather that would be cool bean:-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-86269547872974061012013-02-26T06:29:47.997-08:002013-02-26T06:29:47.997-08:00My reaction to scrolling through the comments....*...My reaction to scrolling through the comments....*face palm* *shakes head* calm your tits!! This is why we can't have nice things. My two cents.... I would like to start by saying that everybody has the right to their own opinion and here is mine. I am fairly new to engaging in any covervesation of debate that exist in the Internet, fandoms, and shipping. Social media and the Internet were not as prominent back in my day of hoarse and buggy. With that said, I had a hard time understanding why people get so upset at what I perceive as innocuous things such as shipping two characters together. I was informed that how the Internet is. It just is what is it is. Well I am getting a little tired of every place I go in my various fandoms there seems to be a war of words over the meaning of the ships Mines better than yours and you fail as a human,or how the ships or shows fail to represent the LGBT community and set the cause back. Positive visibility is very important to help the community to progress forward towards equality. But in the fight to move us closer to our cause we can't lose sight that sometimes entertainment is just entertainment and not everything need to be made into some large federal case. It just shipping people. It's the desire to see certain characters together. Wish fulfillment And there is nothing wrong with that. One thing that I found puzzling in the comments was the statement that if Bo/tamsin were to happen that it would be homophobic (somehow???) cause Bo would be paired with a secondary character and its negative visibility cause it messes with Bo/dr hotpant,I don't think this is the case. I think lost girl is fairly progressive show. The show treats Bo's two main love interest as equals. If Bo were to leave Lauren for dyson it wouldn't be because Lauren is not a man and Bo feel that since she is not a man their relationship is lacking in someway and she seeks out dyson to fulfill her desire. No! Bo loves dyson because he is dyson. The same works in reverse... Bo loves Lauren because she is Lauren. Equal. To me that seem progressive. Our visibility has inceased a lot in a short amount of time. I was 18 when Ellen degeners came out on her tv show and I am 34 now and we have shows like lost girl. Another thing I found troubling was the comments aimed at AE, Dorothy snarker, and heather hogan. AE doesn't know pop culture, snarker induced a shipping war as a fluff piece and blog hits and heather hogan not a good journalist. What the actual fuck!?!?! First of all, with out AE I would have never been exposed to shows like south of nowhere, girltrash, bad girls, capadocia, pretty little liars and rizzoli and isles, ect. I would have never know about the communities of fans for these shows let alone the various blogs that are entertaining and at times very informative. I was intrigued by this little cop show rizzoli and isles and that intrigue quickly gave way to confusion about depth of their friendship, so I turn to all things lesbian AE and I discoved two things one, I was not alone in my perception and two,Dorothy snarker's subtex recaps. Snarker became one of my favorite people on AE which led me to seek out her personal blog site. Of which I enjoy greatly. I have nothing but respect for this woman who take time out of her life to post stuff for our enjoyment and I value her option greatly. I think she is very articulate, funny and intelligent. Her blog is a shiny spot in my day. As for heather hogan. My god that woman is a wordsmith. For example, heather hogan is the reason why i love page Mcullars on pll. in her recaps she gave me insight to her character that changed my mind form and extream dislike to love. I have never once thought that she handle and interview or story without the utmost of intergrity. Heather is an amazing and talented writer. So these are my big lesbian feelings. So I plead to the Internet... Can we please dial it down a bit, chill out and enjoy our entertainment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-48983625515250503682013-02-26T06:08:32.716-08:002013-02-26T06:08:32.716-08:00I want Tamsin and Bo to have sex, it would be awes...I want Tamsin and Bo to have sex, it would be awesome. MAKE IT HAPPEN LG WRITERS!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-57155627628087346302013-02-26T06:01:53.889-08:002013-02-26T06:01:53.889-08:00Is AE
A) Going to take any of this onboard, stop...Is AE <br /><br />A) Going to take any of this onboard, stop undermining important milestone canon lesbian relationships, and start convincingly supporting them instead.<br /><br /> or <br /><br />B) Stick their fingers in their ears and Ryan Murphy us out while they phone in another article about two straight women who look at each other sometimes and try to figure out why their traffic has been consistently sliding in the wrong direction for the past few years?<br /><br />In light of HH's post, I think I know which way to bet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-57636592402305849462013-02-26T03:46:12.337-08:002013-02-26T03:46:12.337-08:00Wow, the shit's really hit the fan....Wow, the shit's really hit the fan....Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00075267199337633398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-62873094139255513812013-02-26T03:35:30.836-08:002013-02-26T03:35:30.836-08:00We expect Dybots to prepare a table for the corpse...We expect Dybots to prepare a table for the corpse of Bo & Lauren. We expect homophobes to belittle and dismiss Doccubus. We expect Lauren haters to applaud and cheer over anything that pushes her one inch closer to the show's trap door. BUT! We do not expect a lesbian blogger who has been recapping the show and knows more about it than anyone else at AE to suddenly pull a Bo & Tamsin rabbit out of a hat and throw Bo & Lauren onto the tracks of an incoming train. Here we have the most compelling lesbian couple in TV history (no hangups, no closet issues, no dependencies, no role playing, no family angst, none of the typical crap and downers hung on lesbian couples on American television) and you, of all people, are already diddling with an imaginary alternative. How does that saw about an antagonist go? Oh yeah...with friends like you who needs enemas?chick_a_licknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-5248950798079474312013-02-26T02:29:40.775-08:002013-02-26T02:29:40.775-08:00Dorothy caught a lot of shit that's really abo...Dorothy caught a lot of shit that's really about AE, and not really about Lost Girl. There's a widely held sense that AE devotes far too much time and energy to subtext, even at the expense of actual text, and pitting a crackship against a canon one like she did just struck that nerve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-62685899034832507702013-02-25T22:46:57.348-08:002013-02-25T22:46:57.348-08:00I have no idea what's in store for Bo and Laur...I have no idea what's in store for Bo and Lauren. I like Tamsin and have imagined she may become Bo's main go-to Fae for feeding when Lauren's wiped out -- with Lauren's blessing. But like some of the other posters here (and it isn't just one PMS'ing angry entitled dyke, for God's sake - - PMS'ing?! really?!), I hope that having taken the bold, ground-breaking step of showcasing this realistic love relationship -- albeit between Fae and human (gender irrelevant) -- the writers and producers don't fuck it up by multiplying Bo's suck-buddies. Yawn. If I'm looking for soft porn, I know where to find it. Not that I ever look fot it. Much. <br /><br />Having not read your posts, Ns Sbarker, I can't comment on the objections raised by others here. But I can certainly relate to their sense of protectiveness about preserving what is special about Lost Girl. What I heard was a plea for you to use your bully pulpit to do the same. <br /><br />Mahlers5thMahlers5thhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05511704290540257618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-1542747790731272962013-02-25T22:44:41.361-08:002013-02-25T22:44:41.361-08:00I'm giving you my personal "recap" b...I'm giving you my personal "recap" by way of saying that for me, this show has never been about the girl-on-girl sex (though I definitely enjoy those moments, too) . It's about a genuine love story that happens to involve two women -- two very different and complicated women -- which made for some interesting conflicts in subsequent episodes. But it is a real love story nonetheless, each person willing to make sacrifices for the sake and for the love of the other. The fact that both were women seemed of no consequence either to them or to anybody else in their world for that matter. It simply didn't come up. <br /><br />Frankly, I never imagined I'd see something like this on American television in my lifetime (just as in 2008, I resigned myself to the fact that Anericans probably wouldn't elect a woman President in my lifetime...but stay tuned!). So, I gave a big shout out to those wonderful Canadians for being their liberal, creative, down-to-earth selves.Mahlers5thhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05511704290540257618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-40087813390426434152013-02-25T22:38:16.050-08:002013-02-25T22:38:16.050-08:00Years ago, I saw a movie - Desert Hearts - that so...Years ago, I saw a movie - Desert Hearts - that sort of tried to approximate such a scene but, let's face it, that movie was more about infatuation, loneliness, bicuriosity rather than a mature love. And of course that relationship ended when the bicurious woman got back on the train for whatever town she'd come from for her quickie Nevada divorce. They were never in each other's lives in any meaningful way.<br /><br />But "Lost Girl" was different and I knew it the moment I heard that exchange. Even more startling, two other characters then came running up and stumbled upon the two women embracing -- and they did none of the usual, "OMG, will you look at that!" voyeuristic, titillated sort of crap I half-expected. The guy -- I had no idea in that moment who he was or that he'd once loved, still loved, the brunette -- he stood quietly, almost respectfully, taking it in, and just said, "Bo looks happy." I was really hooked.Mahlers5thhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05511704290540257618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-85089447226059341152013-02-25T22:35:03.577-08:002013-02-25T22:35:03.577-08:00I was surfing channels on a Monday night in Januar... I was surfing channels on a Monday night in January, here in New York, and was just about to blast through SyFy hoping to miss some random gross-out scene from "The Hills Have Eyes," or another Star Trek re-run, or one of the many asteroid-threatening-humanity fliks, when I saw a woman with an unmistakable -- if anxious -- look of love in her eyes, tell another woman, "It's time." And the other woman, eyes welling up with tears, asked in a achingly vulnerable, hoping-beyond-hope sort of way, "Really?" And then they kissed. <br /><br />But the kiss was almost besides the point. "Lost Girl" had me at Lauren's "Really?" In all my nearly 60 years of television watching, I'd never seen a moment quite like it - two women declaring their love for each other with all the tenderness, hope, anxiety, excitement, and vulnerability such declarations often bring. Two women...Mahlers5thhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05511704290540257618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-83403529711990246802013-02-25T22:31:48.266-08:002013-02-25T22:31:48.266-08:00Just to be clear about a few things from the top:
...Just to be clear about a few things from the top:<br /><br />I've never read anything written by Ms Snarker except the tweet that led me to this discussion.<br /><br />It took me awhile to figure out that "AE" referred to "After Ellen," and then to realize (although I'm an AE follower), it has nothing to do with Ellen Degeneres. Not directly, anyway. <br /><br />I think I know what "shipping" means, (though the meaning seems to change depending on the context) but I have no idea what "OTP" means.<br /><br />Get it? I'm a total noob to AE, to Twitter, and even to LG. I suspect this will be of little interest to anyone else, but here's the story of how I got here: Mahlers5thhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05511704290540257618noreply@blogger.com