tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post1749571262964808902..comments2024-03-27T10:34:14.352-07:00Comments on Dorothy Surrenders: Faking itDorothy Snarkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10143059192565751994noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-29960065284452608732010-04-08T05:07:05.118-07:002010-04-08T05:07:05.118-07:00I'm calling the school superintendent today, a...I'm calling the school superintendent today, as well as writing. Also mobilizing as many people as I can to do the same.<br />This cannot happen in a civilized society. I'm sick about it. Christ.Shylotushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10303544588585336770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-62081575143268925962010-04-07T23:27:55.271-07:002010-04-07T23:27:55.271-07:00Excellent blog post as always. Horrible, Horrible ...Excellent blog post as always. Horrible, Horrible situation that brings tears to my eyes everytime I read about it. Email sent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-29121971130810517362010-04-07T19:24:15.044-07:002010-04-07T19:24:15.044-07:00Carrie Neal Walden
What stereotype? How old arew ...Carrie Neal Walden<br /><br />What stereotype? How old arew you that you don't know that this is what the majority of heterosexual teens do: mGet drunk, Throw up in Limos and LOSE their virginity. and I dare to add one more: The popular couple who discard the fetus that was given birth to in the bathroom the infamous: "Prom Night Dumpster Baby"<br /><br />Oh yeah heterosexual teenagers are prime examples of how you DON'T want your child to grow up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-68064696938202535582010-04-07T16:33:13.576-07:002010-04-07T16:33:13.576-07:00While I think what the HS did to Constance is unac...While I think what the HS did to Constance is unacceptable, I think your article, poking fun at people with learning disabilities, and also the broad generalization that ever teen throws up in a limo or aspires to rape another, is the pot calling the kettle black. If you wish to have a society where no one makes fun of or bashes others, I suggest you start with yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-64313303265400119332010-04-07T11:04:18.973-07:002010-04-07T11:04:18.973-07:00i am so heart-broken about this. There was such a...i am so heart-broken about this. There was such a teachable moment. I forget how small-minded and mean a group of people can be since I am fortunate to be out in my world/community. After watching the media hype and seeing her on Ellen, I was sure that the school would be forced to do the right thing. And to have this result. It is just heart-breaking. Dear Constance, there is a whole big world out here that will support you and make you feel good about yourself and your loves. Good luck to you! And of course, I wrote my emails... despicable human beings!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-13053898483196488292010-04-07T08:09:22.312-07:002010-04-07T08:09:22.312-07:00From another blog, but one of the best commentarie...From another blog, but one of the best commentaries out there:<br />Majoring in bigotry.<br />By now you've read about honor-roll student Constance McMillen, the girl stuck in the Meanest High School in America — Itawamba Agricultural High School, of Fulton Mississippi.<br />Apparently the school is run by Glee Coach Sue Sylvester.<br />I do hope U.S. District Court Judge Glen Davidson has something exciting in store for Superintendent Teresa "stop hounding us" McNeese, Attorney Benjamin Griffith, Principal Trae Wiygul and the various teachers and parents who set up a fake prom and chaperoned the real "no queers or retards" prom — especially given that Judge Davidson ruled that excluding Miss McMillen violated her rights, but wouldn't order the school to reinstate the original prom based in part on the administration's implication that all students would be permitted to attend a new prom (which turned out to be the decoy).<br />IAHS Class of 2010, assuming you ever attempt to leave the tidepool you call a hometown, when you fill out the "Education" section on college and job applications, know that you might as well be writing "I'm proud to be a selfish, bigoted shitbag!" I hope it haunts you for the rest of your lives. I also hope that whenever you get short of money, you remember that tonic.com gave Constance $30,000 (and offered her a cool internship) because you're such an asshole.<br />Since your liar teachers and your degenerate parents evidently didn't teach you anything about history or decency, here's a more direct lesson for you — see if you can spot the parallels:<br /><br /> She spent all Saturday getting ready, fixing her hair, slipping into the pink floral dress her mother finished the week before. Her father, a Baptist preacher, helped pick her date, a respectable young man worthy of escorting his daughter, the first and only black student at Jones Valley High School.<br /> She and her date drove that 1965 night with her father and a retinue of supporters and protectors toward the high school gym. They turned the corner.<br /> The gymnasium was dark, empty.<br /> "They had fooled us," Carolyn Tasmiya King-Miller said. "I remember going home that night in tears. I sat on the sofa in my prom dress, lying on my mother's breast and crying all night. That's when the silence started."<br /> For decades, King-Miller, who now lives in San Francisco, has been stoic about the lonely, humiliating experience of integrating the school in Birmingham.<br /> ...white mothers of the prom planners had kept the location of the Jones Valley High prom a secret so she couldn't attend...<br /> Although everyone knew, she didn't talk about her disastrous prom night. Her father told her not to humble herself by asking her classmates about the incident.<br /> "Of course, they all taunted me about it — 'Did you like the prom, Caroline?'"<br /> Vickii Howell reporting for The Birmingham News, printed in The Tuscaloosa News/Region Section — 24 November 2000<br /><br />And lest you IAHS '10 morons think that story is a comedy, it isn't. Ms King-Miller's classmates ended up begging her for forgiveness 30 years later.<br />I hope eventually you develop at least that much decency. But I'm not optimistic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-18747331586200428002010-04-07T07:11:11.255-07:002010-04-07T07:11:11.255-07:00I found this comment from the principal
"I&#...I found this comment from the principal<br /><br />"I've been called every name known to man," Wiygul said. "I've been called a bigot, a homophobe and a few cuss words. It's been pretty rough."Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02891557842399267891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-30281629668461876422010-04-07T00:43:41.785-07:002010-04-07T00:43:41.785-07:00carrie neal...really? you take umbrage at a prom n...carrie neal...really? you take umbrage at a prom night stereo type? that's the main point you had to make?<br /><br />and the outrage over the school officials chaperoning the private prom is that they were the ones who invited Constance to the "official" fake prom that she and the disabled kinds went to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-87820304565684127492010-04-06T22:31:13.123-07:002010-04-06T22:31:13.123-07:00Ok....I have a few things to say to this!
First, ...Ok....I have a few things to say to this!<br /><br />First, it is absolutely, entirely, unequivocably unacceptable to have any sort of "fake" or "trick" or separate prom. *We* - meaning those of us with brains, compassion and decency, plus non-judgmental/open-mindedness about sexuality, race, etc etc - are justifiably horrified at that aspect of this.<br /><br />BUT. My own prom was chaperoned by teachers/principals/what-have-you . . . I don't know that outrage over that, as you wrote, is at all justifiable.<br /><br />And I take humbrage at your stretch of the "prom night stereotype" where you write "....at the 'real' prom enjoying their night of throwing up in limos and potentially getting date raped." Come on. That doesn't do any constructive good to the legitimate argument you're actually making, and it's insulting to any of us who attended proms whenever and wherever (gay, straight or martian!) and magically somehow basically behaved ourselves and - *gasp* - survived.<br /><br />Constance should be (should've been) allowed to go to prom with whomever she wants. Bob, who's white, should be able to take Maryellen, who's black, to prom. Etc, etc. <br /><br />But it unfortunately doesn't always happen everywhere, all the time. The brave stand up and put their stake in the ground - it's not helpful, though, when that pontification goes juuuust a bit too far. If I'm making sense.<br /><br />Just my $0.02 . . .Carrie Neal Waldenhttp://www.CarrieNealLand.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-34086409512219098922010-04-06T20:41:45.657-07:002010-04-06T20:41:45.657-07:00I believe that if the ACLU REALLY wanted to make a...I believe that if the ACLU REALLY wanted to make an example of this case they would include the fact that the school district and community broke CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS regarding EQUAL ACCESS for the students with disabilities. It's already been settled that SEPARATE is NOT EQUAL. Therefore, sending the kids with disabilities to the NOT REAL prom, even though school staff were supposedly in charge, is NOT EQUAL ACCESS to education (which includes social events associated with said educational institution). The fact that the REAL PROM was "private" and school staff were at the NOT REAL PROM is a manipulation of civil rights laws. Hopefully the ACLU will add this to the first lawsuit, or at least open a second lawsuit on behalf of the students with disabilities.TheWeyrd1https://www.blogger.com/profile/15064826219629525527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-32420967382842922412010-04-06T20:32:31.967-07:002010-04-06T20:32:31.967-07:00@anon 1:55pm (I hate anonymous posts...just come u...@anon 1:55pm (I hate anonymous posts...just come up with a screen name. You don't even have to register, for petes' sake)<br /><br />Okay, I haven't responded to a troll in at least 10 years, but this is the umpteenth attack on a writer I like in the past week. So, sorry, some of this rage isn't just for you.<br /><br />I do not deify DS, nor do I think anyone else does. In fact, I'm pretty sure she does stuff all the time that is bad and/or lame. Every once in a while, I even disagree with her, though, not on how hot women in tank tops are. There are several of us who read her blog pretty regularly and enjoy her writing. Where I come from (you know, civilization), it's nice to compliment people when you enjoy something of theirs. Especially when they do it for fun, provide it for free, and don't get paid. So really, you're annoyed because people give positive feedback to a blogger? How dare we be so nice! We must be sheep, because everyone knows the only sign of free thought is criticism.<br /><br />Additionally, if you don't like DS's blog, Sarah Warn's site, AfterEllen, or any other writing on the internet, don't read it! No one is forcing you to read it. Although, we just lost net neutrality today, so that might change. You may not have independent blogs forever, just mainstream corporate voices who, I'm sure, will do a bang-up job of representing queer women.<br /><br />Lastly, way to derail a post about Constance for your pettiness. I want to end this on target, so thanks to all the media shining light on this town. Let's keep up the pressure!Hannahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-83959754040832974932010-04-06T20:31:45.210-07:002010-04-06T20:31:45.210-07:00This is so horrible. I am reminded of the segregat...This is so horrible. I am reminded of the segregation of whites and colored people in the past. What year are we in exactly? 1910? :( For revenge, I joined the facebook page in support of constance. We need to fight!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-52967358687578572102010-04-06T18:46:00.398-07:002010-04-06T18:46:00.398-07:00JohnB,
Why would Constance invite anyone other th...JohnB,<br /><br />Why would Constance invite anyone other than her date to what she was led to believe was just a regular prom, not a deceptive stunt put on by all the simpletons that pass for adults in Fulton? Not "her" prom, but what she was told was THE prom.<br /><br />If school officials had anything to do with organizing or chaperoning the private prom, then they're up to their eyeballs in more legal trouble. Idiots.<br /><br />And if there are so many other gay people that would have attended the fake prom had Constance invited them, then that's an even bigger indictment on the stupid Fulton community. <br /><br />If there are soooo many other gay kids there, then what's the big deal about Constance?<br /><br />Morons. Inbreds. Ignorant homophobes. Fulton, Mississippi. Asshole of the Nation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-75098637488482960052010-04-06T16:26:45.191-07:002010-04-06T16:26:45.191-07:00I'm from a Southern Mississippi town and I hat...I'm from a Southern Mississippi town and I hate to admit it, but this doesn't really surprise me. People here have trouble accepting things that are different. It's part of our culture. Hello, slavery. I'm not saying that it makes this okay. It's terrible and horrible and completely wrong. I'm sorry, Constance.Open-Minded Mississippiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-86088869968859367852010-04-06T15:23:51.214-07:002010-04-06T15:23:51.214-07:00hi there,
i've read the story recently in a Ge...hi there,<br />i've read the story recently in a German newspaper: http://www.spiegel.de/schulspiegel/ausland/0,1518,683000,00.html<br />and then I stumbled over how it continued and I really cannot believe it. Anyway, I've sent an e-mail and I really hope that you people flood ms. mcneece's account like a springtide.<br />best regards and a nice day...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-29759563435989807252010-04-06T15:22:16.979-07:002010-04-06T15:22:16.979-07:00HRC is on this now - take some action...
I cannot...HRC is on this now - take some action...<br /><br />I cannot imagine adult school administrators pulling a pathetic stunt like this. Pathetic. What a horrible example all around. I hope Constance and her girlfriend can feel all the support coming to them.tlsintxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-37525180560961863632010-04-06T14:23:58.305-07:002010-04-06T14:23:58.305-07:00e-mails have been sent, and another batch we be ma...e-mails have been sent, and another batch we be mailed out through my school's LGBT organizations. Thank you very much for the info. <br /><br />AmandaAmandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06751351820571906786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-34657983791570781492010-04-06T14:22:01.200-07:002010-04-06T14:22:01.200-07:00I read an article like this and I'm dumbfounde...I read an article like this and I'm dumbfounded. How do I feel about this, what can I say, what is the answer, is there an answer??<br /><br />I'm older and have suffered much of the discrimination and hate associated with being "QUEER". Lived through it, prospered in spite of it and learned compassion because of it. <br /><br />There is no answer. Living well is the best revenge. No not accumulating money or things, but; living well, loving yourself and never giving up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-90706205163436133092010-04-06T14:04:25.104-07:002010-04-06T14:04:25.104-07:00You know what we should do? We should organize th...You know what we should do? We should organize the world's largest queer gathering in their bigoted little town- like another Dinah Shore. We should descend on them like locusts, plastering glittery, happy, rainbow stickers on every flat surface (including foreheads), and leaving rainbow feather boas hanging from their trees and lamp posts. I can see it now- it will be like Mardi Gras! And if they try to start trouble, we'll form a human barricade of beautiful, six-foot drag queens, armed with their sparkly stiletto heels and SERIOUS don't-f*ck-with-me attitudes!!! BWA HAHAHAHAHAHA<br /><br />Seriously... what they did to this poor girl and a few of her fellow classmates is absolutely deplorable, and utterly reprehensible. I am DISGUSTED, and letters will be flying momentarily.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-61285455326437940972010-04-06T14:01:34.918-07:002010-04-06T14:01:34.918-07:00The day I read she'd been allowed to go, I was...The day I read she'd been allowed to go, I was soo happy for her. Then last night when I found out about the fake prom, it started my blood boiling all over again.<br />Sooooo incredibly furious! Screaming all the way from the UK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-52351326783227196692010-04-06T13:59:51.619-07:002010-04-06T13:59:51.619-07:00It was a PRIVATE prom. That's still leagal in ...It was a PRIVATE prom. That's still leagal in this country, get over it.<br />By they way, why didn't she invite other gays to her prom? She would have had alot more people.JohnBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-3900321792071204162010-04-06T13:55:47.929-07:002010-04-06T13:55:47.929-07:00"you already did all the work..."
I rea..."you already did all the work..."<br /><br />I really wish you all had a backbones and would stop deifying Dororthy Snarker because she DIDN'T do all of the work. Good Grief. Others were posting before she jumped on the band wagon sycophants (a term usually reserved for Sarah "I-claim-insider-indistry-connections-that-just-don't-pan-out" Warn. Could you all kiss any more ass?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-87978191009218996392010-04-06T13:53:17.198-07:002010-04-06T13:53:17.198-07:00I have read all the comments and am at a loss of w...I have read all the comments and am at a loss of words to describe how utterly flabbergasted I am that adults (or rather people of the adult age) actually went to such lengths to be so cruel to one teenage girl. I know that as a person I should be forgiving but in all honesty I hope they burn in hell!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-69604350843206719512010-04-06T13:26:51.272-07:002010-04-06T13:26:51.272-07:00These are OUR kids. Constance is ours and those o...These are OUR kids. Constance is ours and those of us in the older generation fought long hard battles so that this kind of thing would not happen to her or any other glbt kid. It sickens me that our work, not to mention the g-damn 21st century has not made it down to Mississippi yet. Directing traffic from my blog's daily journal page to yours cuz you already did all the work...and you do it so well!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26871122.post-15566674050653450052010-04-06T12:18:46.109-07:002010-04-06T12:18:46.109-07:00Thank you for the contact information! I emailed ...Thank you for the contact information! I emailed them both today and put the contact info on my Facebook page. God bless Constance!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com